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Shotgun Clay Shooting Poll

20 Jul
Shotgun Clay Shooting Poll

Please take our poll regarding shotgunning in JH!  A few local shooters including Armond, Mike, Mike & Chris have started a shotgun league and have been opening up the JHGC shotgun area for 5-Stand and Trap on Tuesdays and Sundays.  Congrats and thanks to them for promoting local shooting sports participation!  (For more information, email them!  jhsportingclays@gmail.com )

These shooting enthusiasts have interviewed various stakeholders and also want YOUR input!  They have asked that we make these polls available and they thank you in advance for your thoughtful input!

This is a great opportunity for you to give input to the JH Gun Club Board of Directors, as your unedited responses will be shared with them.  Please respond in the comment section below, either with your real name or anonymously!

1. Do you perceive there to be any safety issues with the current shotgun facility?  If so, what?

2. What could the Board do in the short-term to improve the existing shotgun facility?

3. If the Board were to make long-term investment in the shotgun facility to improve it, what suggestions would you make to guide that investment decision?
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10 responses to “Shotgun Clay Shooting Poll

  1. Joe Bohne

    July 20, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    Need to have range officer capable of mentoring novice shooters to insure satety practices are followed and useful instruction is received. Safty has been lack on occasion with new shooters.
    Improvements could include upgrading trap range and working on renovating the sporting clays range in the coming year.
    The club eneeds to commit to operating the shotgun range on a regualr basis with set dates/times and staffing it accordingly. Volunteer help is keeping it going at the moment on an ad hoc basis but the shotgun range needs to figur einto the baics operation of the club. Without the shotgun range in operation I would not keep my club membership.

     
  2. Chris Ripley

    July 20, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    Having observed and participated in 3 shoots at the JH Gun club I can unequivocally state that there are no shortcomings when it comes to safety. Neither the range layout, nor the procedures for conducting the shoots offer any opportunity for anything but positive feedback

    In the short term, the layout could be significantly improved at a cost of less than 7,000 and take leas than two days to complete. I would be happy to pitch, plan, and execute these improvements at no charge to the club. Notable improvements.
    1.) create a three stand wobble only layout utilizing phono pull or other self pulling technology
    2.) fix the currently non operational trap and place into the layout
    3.) create stand cards and trapper cards for two seperate five stand routines.

    Longer term improvements.

    For less than 50,000, a world class sporting layout could be created. This budget would include new machines and a self service system that would eliminate the need for a trapper.

    Given that sporting clays is the fastest growing shotgun sport and arguably the only growing shotgun sport, it seems the best candidate for expansion.

     
  3. Garry tank

    July 21, 2013 at 2:44 am

    Bring the shotgun bay up to regulation for trap and sheet

     
  4. U-no-hoo

    July 21, 2013 at 7:43 am

    1. I don’t have safety concerns.
    2. Buy a voice activated system that accepts tokens or cards for the wobble trap so that members can shoot without a thrower on duty. A “get it done” kind of person could have this ready within 30 days. Raise prices. Get serious about a grant from the NRA.
    3.
    -Add a second bay with Trap only to the West that operates independently of current bay. It would be open for member use when the main bay was in use by a group.
    -Turn management over to a for-profit or other person/group that will get things done immediately without bureaucracy.
    -Set up a schedule and get groups/leagues involved, for example:
    High Country Outfitters- Jack Dennis
    • Every Wednesday evening in the summer from 6pm to 9pm. Managed completely by HCO-JD @ $12/round
    Jackson Hole Shooting Sports Foundation – For the “public / communal good”
    • Thursday evenings from 6pm to 9pm – JHSSF pays a thrower for 5 hours of work at $20/hr for a total annual cost of $2,000. This is the “public time” that a thrower is available and folks can shoot at the affordable price of $8/round.
    Boy Scouts of America
    • Tuesdays from 8am to 1200pm @ $10/round
    • Thursdays from 8am to 5pm @ $10/round
    4H Youth
    • Thursday evenings from 5pm to 9pm @ $10/round
    AMMC Group
    • Tues evenings from 5pm to 9pm @ $12/round
    • Sundays from 10am to 2pm @ $12/round
    JHSE & Private groups
    • Book the shotgun bay as available @ $12/round
    – Get a grant from the NRA for 2014 for upgraded machines, maintenance, a classy gazebo that would be covered with canvas and act as a warming room in the cold months, a 500+ gallon water tank for watering flower gardens, a restroom, a cart for filling houses with clays etc… have a “committee” comprised only of people that have used the shotgun bay at least 5 times in the preceding summer draw up plans & execute them. Apply for JHSSF grants to supplement NRA grants.
    – Much more! 🙂

     
  5. Nancy Bohne

    July 21, 2013 at 8:01 am

    I often hear ricochets from the rifle range – wonder about safety

     
  6. Armond

    July 21, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    Have “beginner” stations that are less than regulation trap distance. Have “expert stations that are more than regulation trap distance. Move the “wabbit” a bit forward so # 5 station is not shooting at a shallow angle in front of # 1 station. Get the old “# 4 house” operational, throwing from above and behind. Make current house # 4 more of a crossing shot and less of a going away shot.

     
  7. Matt Faupel

    July 21, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Love getting it going again. Like the hunting simulations best (5 stand, sporting clays). I would say improve what you have with expansion in mind. A good base area and shady spot is a great start. It was nice to have all 5 of the 5 stand working last time I was there too.

    I would be happy to schedule a night to run the shoot, volunteer. Still have my rso active.

     
    • shootinjh

      July 22, 2013 at 9:48 am

      My offers to the JHGC to certify more RSO’s still stands! 🙂
      Shepard Humphries – CRSO / NRA Training Counselor

       
  8. Andy Ward

    July 22, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    A full refurbishment of the current traps to insure there continued operation would be great!!!

     
  9. Ken Piech

    July 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Short term –

    Many shooters opt to shoot wobble instead of houses because the houses are too difficult – either being too fast, or thrown too far, or both. We should try to make these targets more shootable for older shooters with less than perfect vision, and for newer shooters. If we do this more shooters would shoot the houses as well as the wobble.

    How to do this? If possible, turn down the springs on stations 1, 4, and teal. And don’t throw the teal straight up, instead throw it at an angle (a looper). Slow down the rabbit. If this makes the targets too easy for our better shooters, consider adding a second menu of targets with a report pair at each station, or even a report pair and a true pair. Multiple levels of target complexity were part of the original 5 stand setup.

    Long term investment –

    We need new machines. At first a more reliable wobble trap. Then perhaps a half dozen new machines for the 5 stand.

    We also need several members trained in maintaining the machines. We could use members adept in setting up targets that are interesting (curls and loops and changes of direction, as opposed to the fast and far concept that has prevailed to date). Why not talk to the people at Skyline in Idaho Falls for advice on how to set up 5 stand targets?

    Advertise the shotgun shooting in the JHGC calendar so that people know when they can come to shoot. Over the last few years weekend shooting was never mentioned in the calendar.

    There is some talk of adding a skeet capability to the shotgun bay. We should carefully evaluate this idea, especially if it impacts resource allocation to the 5 stand and wobble capability. In addition to JHGC, I am a member at Rochester Brooks in NY, and Skyline in Idaho Falls. Both of these clubs are active in all the major shotgun sports -sporting, 5 stand, trap, and skeet. Rochester Brooks has about twenty trap and skeet fields, two sporting fields with about 25 stations total, and a covered and heated 5 stand. It periodically hosts the New York State championships in sporting, trap and skeet.

    In shooting at both of these clubs i have never observed an active participation in skeet that comes close to rivaling sporting and 5 stand participation. For example, at Brooks I will seldom see more than one skeet field in operation, while I regularly encounter twenty or so vehicles at the sporting fields representing 30 or more shooters. I would find it difficult to believe that Jackson shotgun shooting market preferences would be that different than these two markets. Sporting and 5 stand is clearly a much more active and preferred venue than skeet. I would recommend that JHGC consider contacting both the Rochester Brooks and Skyline club managers to verify the relative popularity of the various shotgun venues at their clubs.

    And a special thanks to Armond, Mike, and Mike for their efforts in resurrecting shotgun activity at JHGC.

     

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